Thanks for asking all of your well thought out and important questions in my Africa…ask away! post! It is so clear from reading them that working with an upstanding organization whose work one can stand behind and fully support is as important to many of you as it is to me and my family.
As I read all of the questions, I gathered that, for one reason or another, there seem to have been a few inaccurate assumptions drawn about Global Hope Network International and about my trip with them. I apologize if, by not being able to share the answers to every question that was asked, confusion was only added. I am very happy to answer any and all questions about GHNI, my involvement with them and my upcoming trip that I can. (Provided that the question was just that, a question, and not a statement as fact of something that is, in fact, not true. Such comments, as well as any inflammatory, discrediting or malicious ones, will not be allowed on my blog.) When we traveled with Compassion last year, we received similar questioning about the integrity of their organization. I did and still do very much back Compassion International. They are a much more well known organization. GHNI is a younger, growing, but far less known organization. I’m very much enjoying getting involved with them early in their journey, and I am so glad be building connections with Compassion in their more time-tested work. I personally support both of them very very much. Naturally, I understand completely if you aren’t comfortable helping a lesser-known organization serve the poor. But if others of you, like me, feel that you have more than enough information to feel wise and good about getting behind their work, I’m excited to do that together with you!
And so let’s get rolling with the questions…and answers! I have tried to include every angle of question that was asked. Many were duplicates, questions asking basically the same thing, so I’ve consolidated and picked questions that should hopefully be covering every thing that was asked! And many thanks again for caring about our family, the poor, the validity of organizations I am involved with and humanitarian help for those who desperately need it.
How did you get involved with GHNI?
Jeff Power, their US Partnerships Development Team Director, and I have a mutual friend! She connected the two of us because she knew that Jeff was interested in exploring the social media side of raising awareness about humanitarian work and that I had a love for Africa, the poor and a desire to continue to use my blog as an awareness tool. As it turns out, what GHNI is doing was a wonderful “match” for what has been going on in my husband’s heart and mine, so I made it clear to Jeff that we’d love to learn more and get involved as we were able!
Is this a Christian organization or a secular one?
Great question! Actually, it’s neither. Secular literally means without any faith, much as the way a communist government might declare a secular state. GHNI is incorporated as are officially “an organization for the public good,” a status which neither requires nor restricts faith.
Why aren’t you working with a Christian organization? Why aren’t you going to “minister” to people?
I would only volunteer with and actively support organizations that I believe in. I have mentioned many, many of them on my blog in the past few years. The staff at GHNI come from backgrounds I know and trust. Jeff used to be a pastor in a former life before being with GHNI. Additionally, in Kenya and Ethiopia (where I’ll be going), the directors are from pastoral backgrounds and have pastor’s hearts. They love God and the poor. So do I. So I see this as a great fit!
Additionally, when any organization works in sensitive areas of the world, I’m learning that the openness of the internet needs to be carefully respected. So as it relates to faith and my travels with GHNI, I will speak about my own beliefs and not about anyone else’s. My personal beliefs are strong about helping others meet tangible needs with an ultimate goal of pointing people to Jesus, for He is all that eternally matters. I am so grateful to have found an organization where I am free to share the Reason for the hope I have as well as help see vital felt needs met.
GHNI first starting working here in the US in California – where they were NOT (and still not) registered with the State Attorney General as required by law to solicite any funds. That was in 2003.
Well, this one isn’t really a question, but I wanted to address it. Actually, GHNI is a registered corporation in California. Their registration number will be given to you if you contact them via their website. GHNI become a 501c3 non profit in 2003, a status that was confirmed again in 2007.
You told me they were rated on GuideStar, but they are only listed, not rated.
Sorry that my wording was incorrect! Apparently GuideStar lists charities but doesn’t rate them. Others can come on to GuideStar and rate the charities that are listed there. My apologies for the inaccurate wording. Anyone is free to use GuideStar to access GHNI’s 990 tax forms.
And why did you lie about deleting the posts? I know this is off topic, but it’s what is bothering me.
I didn’t lie about deleting posts. I made it clear yesterday that there are a few kinds of comments that I will not allow on my blog and either I, or my blog administrator, moderates comments using that criteria. I never said I did delete a post that I didn’t, nor did I say I didn’t delete a post that I did. Not sure where that confusion came from.
I thought you said your kids got haircuts this week. From these photos it’s clear they didn’t. Do you lie about everything?
Oh, dear. This isn’t a question about Africa, of course. But just to help make sure we’re all on the same page, I’ll clarify: When I Tweet something like, “All four of our big kids got haircuts today!” what that actually means is, “All four of our big kids got haircuts today!” The insinuation that GHNI is a big scam and I’m trying to pull the wool over your eyes (something a handful of commenters asserted) frankly is as silly as the idea that I Tweet lies our kids’ haircuts (something a handful of commenters asserted). I have much better things to do with my time, and I love that almost all of my wonderful readers do, too! A few rotten apples are not going to spoil this barrel.
I’m just wondering why not help your fellow Americans??
Oh, we do! We believe strongly in helping people. Any people. All people. We’re all family on this globe, regardless of where we live. My family wants to help our neighbors…those both near and far!
In your blog you refer to this trip as a Compassion Trip (caps yours) and that leads me to believe this trip is a joint effort between Compassion International and GHNI?
Yes, that can be confusing! GHNI calls their trips (like the one I’ll be going on) Compassion Trips (caps theirs). It’s just a coincidence that their trips carry part of the same name as the wonderful organization I went to Kenya with last year, Compassion International.
Were you able to meet with GHNI while you were in Florida last weekend?
Nope. Never thought of it and wasn’t asked to. Had I, I wouldn’t have been able to, anyway, as I was very (Very!) busy taking photographs!
To be eligible to receive help (wether it be with hands, or with money) or be chosen to be visited on GHNI’s Compassion Trips, are these African villages required to worship as Christians or to promise to convert to Christianity?
No. Next month, I will be visiting a variety of villages of different faiths that GHNI is actively helping.
Are you going to be a paid teacher/leader?
Nope. I’m neither a paid teacher/leader on the trip to Africa, nor am I an unpaid teacher/leader on the trip! I’m a volunteer, choosing to go on this trip and choosing to use my blog as a vehicle to raise awareness for humanitarian needs.
Why are so many of us reporting they don’t return our inquires?
From my understanding, GHNI doesn’t have a fleet of staff to answer emails at this point. They are a young, growing organization. I’m sure those who write will get a response; many already have gotten one, from the director of the organization, no less. It takes time to answer emails thoroughly, and I think it speaks volumes about an organization that is willing to do that. Understandably, that takes a little time.
How does Compassion International feel about you seeing your sponsored kids when you are there since you are not on a Compassion sponsored trip?
They seem, from all of my correspondence with the Personal Visit Coordinator, to feel just great about it! They love to facilitate visits between sponsors and children, many of which take place on trips not related to Compassion International. I love Compassion International and the work they do and am more excited than I can even explain to be able to meet with Miichelle and Frankline next month. For organizations who have a heart for the poor, there should be no exclusivity. Compassion and GHNI are great examples of this! Any and all help being done to better the plight of those in the world who need it is supported by the organization, even if the work is being done by another organization. I haven’t heard wind of any “competitive spirit” whatsoever. When the goal of helping the poor is indeed the goal, there is support on all sides!
What tangible projects has GHNI done in Asia and Europe? Why does so much more money go there than to Africa?
GHNI doesn’t provide aid in Europe. Their global headquarters are there, so naturally some funds are sent there. Lots of money is going to Africa, but on the tax form I believe you are referring to, Africa isn’t listed because only outside organizations that money was sent to were listed there, not GHNI’s own projects (many of which are in Africa).
Some examples of the tangible projects GHNI has done are as follows, in the words of GHNI’s director: “In Afghanistan, Indonesia, India, Sudan and Kenya, GHNI has taught and assisted farmers in villages by introducing new vine and productive tree stock as well as providing fertile vegetable seed that provides (when cultivated) higher nutritional values.” They have also provided “drip irrigation kits that help make wonderful use of scarce water but also enable otherwise unproductive ground to come under cultivation. Drip irrigation means that it’s also possible to produce crops during the dry season, something impossible to do otherwise.” New crops have meant new income streams as well as nutritional health improvements.
GHNI has provided food supplements for children in early stages of development, particularly, which “is having a positive impact on their educational development and resistance to nutrition based health maladies.” GHNI has been involved over the years with many micro enterprise activities, including the following: “In Afghanistan they had a sewing project that kept war widows employed and provided warm quilts for displaced refugees.” The resulting impact of the sewing project was great, as “many went on to start their own tailoring/sewing business with the provided sewing machines.” They also “started a jam and juicing project that employs widows and abandoned women and a business making salsa and chips which are sold to the western hotels in Kabul.” In Sri Lanka, GHNI refurbished fishing boats after the Tsunami resulting in displaced fishing families getting back to work. Solar bakeries were established in Mozambique, helping “keep orphans employed.” There are coffee growing projects going on in Indonesia. In Kenya and Ethiopia, GHNI “built small goods stores, helped establish tea houses and provided breeding stock for meat, milk and egg sales.” Additionally, GHNI has provided breeding pigs whose sale supports orphan care. There are examples continually being written up on GHNI’s blog, citing projects that are designed to meet local needs by using local resources. My friend Jeff Power spends much time in east Africa, so feel free to read his blog as well, as there is a wealth of information (and photographs!) about the work GHNI is doing. GHNI’s goal is always to help make villages self sustainable, helping poor families take control of their own long term stability.
What is your official role in GHNI? What is your official role within this trip to Africa?
I don’t have an official role with GHNI or on the Africa trip. I am a volunteer going on a trip with them as many have in the past and many hopefully will in the future!
Is getting 100 village sponsors in any way financially benefical to your travel now or in the future to Africa?
Not in the least, though I don’t think there is anything wrong with that approach. For example, with World Vision, if someone has led a certain number of people to become sponsors through them, that person is eligible for a paid trip to visit one of World Vision’s projects. In my situation with GHNI, there is nothing I will “gain” (Aside from intrinsic gains, of course!) by “getting” 100 village sponsors. Or 2 village sponsors. Or 400 village sponsors. I believe, so far, very strongly in what GHNI is doing and I want to be a part of it however I can. Should I continue to back what they do, I will most definitely, completely of my own volition, share that with you guys and encourage you to get involved and help sponsor a village (or 2!) as well! But I was definitely not told, “You can travel with us for free if you get 100 sponsors from your blog,” or “You can come back to Africa next year only if you get x number of people to donate.” Not at all.
Can you give examples of these villages that were lifted out of poverty? How are the results of their coaching methods evaluated? What evidence has led you to choose to volunteer with this organization?
Yes, I will be able to give some examples…very soon! Yes, the “evidence” is what I’m so excited to share more about!! When I travel next month, I will have the opportunity to visit villages who have not been sponsored (Yet!) as well as some that GHNI has worked with for a short time and one that they are very near completed with their work in. First hand, I can’t wait to share with you exactly what I see with my eyes (and my camera lens!) as it relates to villages that GHNI already partners with. To be able to learn, and share with you, what benefit their support has had will be my extreme honor. We’ll visit the pilot village in Kenya that has benefitted from the coaching and support of GHNI since February 2008. I’m willing to bet the transformation there will knock your socks off! I am so excited and honored to be able to see it with my own eyes.
Is GHNI paying any portion of your expenses, are you paying personally, or is funding from some other source?
No, GHNI is not paying for my trip at all. And no one is paying for my trip and then being reimbursed for it by GHNI, either. Volunteers who go on Compassion Trips with GHNI must cover their own travel costs or find our own support and assistance from donors and friends. My sharing about sponsoring villages with GHNI does not hinge whatsoever with the money required for me to travel. None of the $12 a month to support villages goes to my travel. It is not being paid for by GHNI at all. Some private individuals chose to pay my way to Africa because they believe me going there and blogging about it will be a great way to get the word out about the villages there, and GHNI’s awesome Adopt-A-Village program. I am humbled and thankful to have this chance to go.
Some expenses incurred will be paid for by me and my husband. My visit with Miichelle and Frankline will not be paid for by Compassion. We are paying for it ourselves. Compassion organizes the whole visit, but we will foot the bill for the kids’ and their accompanying Compassion International representatives’ travel, overnight lodging, meals, local transportation and any activities we all do together.
It’s odd that GHNI wouldn’t share information with the public in order to gain more supporters.
I am not sure where the belief that they don’t share information with the public comes from. Their tax forms are completely public. There is actually a very well respected humanitarian organization whose tax forms are not available for perusal at the click of a button. I am also told that an “about our finances” page is coming to GHNI’s new website soon, but every question I have ever asked them has been answer in a very upfront fashion. I have yet to experience even one instance of something not being shared “with the public.”
Why did you delete questions that were asked yesterday?
Some were removed by me and others by my administrator. The reasons for comments not being allowed on my blog are in the parenthetic portion of this post’s second paragraph. To clarify, I will not support libel in the comment section of my blog. Some of the comments that were left contained untrue statements about GHNI. If someone wants to commit libel, they will have to find another place to do it.
GHNI’s tax records show more that than 20% of their income goes to accounting fees, employee pay and other non-aid. Yet you said that 80% goes to helping villages and 20% goes to administrative costs. Can you please explain?
Sure thing! GHNI allows money to be designated. From what I have been told, funds go where designated, minus an admin assessment. Money designated toward overhead goes to overhead. Money designated to programs, like the Adopt-a-Village program, goes to the program. Money designated for staff goes to staff. Like many other organizations, most of their staff must raise their own support.
What exactly does the $12 a month do? Is any of that money covering your trip over there?
80% of the $12 a month for adopting a village goes to that village’s program. 20% of it goes to global administration for GHNI. None of it goes for my travel costs.
The 80% doesn’t make sense. Is this a target or something that has already been achieved? Because from 2009 financials, we have revenue of 1.5 million, and travel of 0.3 million (20%), admin costs of 0.16 million (10%), compensation of officers of 0.14 million (10%) which is already 40% of donations that can’t be classified as money that reaches the villages or employees working in or for those villages. The rest went to salaries and benefits, which we’ll assume are true program expenses. Can you explain?
I have looked at the tax form you referenced. I think some incorrect conclusions about where GHNI’s money goes have been drawn, perhaps because you are only referencing page 1 in the question you just asked? When I look at page 1 and 2, the figures add up for me just fine. Please contact them if you’d like this explained more clearly, or want proof of the figures, but here is what the tax forms say clearly to me:
Page 1 is the year’s total expenses. For 2009, the form shows it was 1.8 million.
Page 2 summarizes an organization’s “program expenses.” Those have been explained to me as being the expenses connected to the programs that benefit people. The “program expenses” are why the organization exists.
I read in the form the total “field expenses” (usually those are the goods given by GHNI) which came to $393,134. I see also the “operating costs” (it’s important to understand that this a major part of the coaching method that GHNI uses to help the villages: this figure is the training and salaries for the very people who execute the programs that help the villages). I see “travel and handling costs” (this is money GHNI spends on getting their program people and goods to and from the countries and villages) and that came to $213,497. If you add those up, you come to the “total program expenses,” which for 2009 was $1.15 million.
That means that since GHNI had $1.8 million in expenses and $1.15 million went to their poverty programs that directly benefited the people in the villages, that there was $0.6 million left. GHNI shared with me, as a handful of you have have or do work with non-profits also correctly assumed, that some of those expenses in 2009 were critical, necessary administration expansion. That $0.6 million was entirely funded by people who donated for that purpose.
So, to accurately summarize the tax form that was referenced this question, the outcome is obvious: When people give to GHNI’s program purpose, that’s where their giving goes, minus 20% for global administration.
Whew! I had lots of fun (Is that weird?) working on this post. It was like a college research paper. With a huge, amazing purpose! I know you know this, but thanks for remembering that I am not speaking as an official representative of GHNI. I’ve shared here from what I’ve learned as I’ve gotten to personally know some of the folks at GHNI. They are from backgrounds I am very familiar with and trust. As I’ve mentioned, I’ve become super excited about what GHNI stands for and does. They are a young, slowly emerging organization with lots to get figured out, for sure. But it is clear to me that they’re on a great path. I would love to see them grow and succeed even more, so that the main goal of getting help to more people who need it can be reached via their empowerment focused method for helping villages out of poverty.
For any further details about GHNI than what I’ve shared here, please feel free to contact them directly!
And now, for the very last question, left by Kristin Stegent:
Can we be one of the 100?
But of course!!!! More on how to get involved will be coming soon. Thanks for listening to my long-winded answers. I hope they set some minds at ease so we can move forward with helping as many people as we can see their lives transformed and their families escape poverty.
Love you guys!
I so would have quit by now. I’d find the negativity so soul destroying. I really admire your strength to continue to stay on the blogosphere and expose yourself to such nitpicking, because you know you can do work for God from the unique position you are in. I pray he will use it abundantly for his kingdom.
Thanks for answering the questions about Africa. I pray the trip will be fulfilling and you’ll be able to use your time there for much good and I pray that this adopt a village will be a wonderful success and will make an incredible difference for a struggling village.
Thank you, Niecey. I really like you. Your comments over the years have always spoke right to my heart. Hugs to you and your wee ones.
Jennifer, I don’t know how you manage to stay positive about your blog with so many negative comments and questions that seem to be attacking you. On the days I wish I receive more comments on my blog I think of what you have to go through and I am relieved I don’t have the following you do. God Bless You for your resilience. No one has the right to judge you for your choices. I love looking at your photographs and dropping in to see what you are up to. Take care!
I wonder the same thing! You are a very strong woman to deal with all these negative people and the comments they make! I’m thinking about your family and you. Its a great thing that you are doing. I hope you know that there are many people who support you and who love your blog and your family.
Hey MckMama and the McK Fans and foes…I have been following this blog for months and have finally decided to speak… I am not a mother of 5.. I am a step-mother of 1 who is 5 and who is the baby of my heart… First off, I strongly believe in the freedom to speak with a lack of censorship… so i love this blog. MckMama doesn’t write the popular, though sometimes… and she doesn’t always write the pretty, but the photos are gorgeous… she writes what IS in her life… and in my opinion… read if you are mesmerized, but don’t come here to otherwise go somewhere else and complain and try to find holes in her stories.. Seriously… Life a life.
I love this blog for its tips, beautiful photos, hilarious stories and earnest pain.. I have to admit I love it. .. and just because MckMama has written a public blog it really doesn’t mean that every detail of her life is our business… she chooses.. her blog… that all seems fine to me. As for Africa… everyone seems to be trying to belittle this effort about about MckMama traveling in alignment with GHNI by scrutinizing balance sheets etc.– People What about the true humanitarian effort going on here… what about that…? Does that not deserve the foremost press?
I pulled up the GHNI site and found it compelling… Go MckMama for being bigger than yourself and your world.. how many of us can really say we live that way… .NOT ME.. do I try, certainly.. do I do it? Not all the time.
I guess the long and the short of this post.. mostly long is that I’m not a hater… I’m a reader who admires what you do with your 5 children at home who are clearly intelligent, adorable, in love with their siblings and parents…You speak not only the pretty.. and I LOVE THAT… so as far as I am concerned.. I love this blog..I don’t always read the comments through because they get to me.. so I have decided to let my experience of this blog be my experience… and I like that experience.. sure I’ll weigh in like I am doing now when I feel so inclined to throw my 2 cents of an opinion out there… but again— MY opinion..
Travel safely to Africa MckMama… Looking forward to hearing about the trip.
Tara
No truer words said. I don’t understand the negativity. I really enjoy this blog for the same reasons you mentioned Tara.
MckMama, fair play to you for even answering these nosy questions, in my opinion, its nobodys business but your own what you do. I wish you the best of luck travelling and as we say over here, f**k the begrudgers!!.
Thanks for the reply… It’s nice to know I’m on the same page as some of my fellow humans.
Jen, I just spent a good part of an hour perusing through the comments on your post and I have to tell you…that was time wasted that I can never get back. I don’t know why I even bothered to read, I should have known what would be there…although I am continually amazed at the amount of time and effort some people will put into belittling you, questioning your judgement, your character, your honesty, trying to discourage and destroy any self-confidence and self-worth that you may have left. A weaker person would have crumbled long ago, caved under the pressure and called those weasels what they really are, but since you don’t swear (well, hardly ever anyways) I will show you and your blog the respect that you deserve and I won’t write what I would really like to say about those “people”, but I will say this: You have never professed to be perfect, in fact many times you’ve blogged entire entries about your imperfections alone, you have never claimed to have all the answers, you’ve NEVER blogged an entire entry with the specific purpose of hurting someone (unlike them), you’ve owned up to your faults and errors with much more grace than I could have EVER even hoped to, you’ve apologized when you felt someone had been slighted or misrepresented, and you have shown me (for I can only speak of MY OWN experiences) that being Christian doesn’t mean being perfect and it isn’t always even pretty, BUT I AM ALWAYS LOVED BY THE LORD. My husband and I have a mortgage and a car payment and enough credit card debt to buy a cottage by the lake. We have three beautiful children who aren’t always clean, wear the same clothes two days in a row (especially the boys!) and sometimes force me to yell “Mom is not home anymore! I’m changing my name!” But they are the center of our world and there is nothing we wouldn’t do for them, much like you with your MSC. I read your blog because you remind me to let them help me make french toast even though there will probably be an egg shell or two in the mix, to tuck them in at night and scratch their backs although they are 11, 8 and 7 and probably don’t “need” me to anymore and you remind me to tell my husband I love him even in the moments when I don’t particularly like him. Your blog is real and honest and in your face, yet not pushy and close-minded. I don’t care who you owe money to if you don’t care who I owe money to and the fact is none of these people who ask you those pointed questions on your blog would ever ask you them IRL. Unfortunately, the same technology that allows us to “talk” to each other, also allows these peons to waste more time than I have in a day looking up useless bits of information about you and your family. What they don’t seem to realize is that it is time wasted…where God closes a door, he opens a window. Nothing they do to you can really harm you because much like when Stellan was sick and you blogged that although YOU were surprised that he was sick again, GOD was not…ALL of THIS stuff too He already knows about and has a plan for…you have obviously opened your hearts to that plan and He has blessed it. I’ve said this before and I will say it again, those of us who believe in you and your family will always be here, regardless of what the “megans” of this world say…Godspeed Jennifer, may you have a wonderful trip, blessed by amazing visits with your sponsor children and I can’t wait to hear all about it and see the pictures that I am sure you will send!! Love to all! Melanie
Hi Jennifer!
First, I want to let you know that we got the cd with our photos last week–they are awesome! Thanks again! Also, just wanted to say that I am so excited for you and this upcoming trip. Before I became a mom, I was a missionary for 9 years with Campus Crusade for Christ (the JESUS Film Project). I have several friends who are on staff with GHNI, and it is indeed an awesome ministry, as you already know! I look forward to hearing how God is working, as you share about your experience.
Many Blessings,
Allison
Some of these comments are just ridiculous. I’m not someone who supports everything Jennifer says or does (and if she met me I’m sure she would feel the same about me, no offense intended in that comment!) and some of the sucking up here is also ridiculous, but some comments are just flat out rude and disrespectful! I just feel like I would never say anything on the internet that I wouldn’t say to anyones face. I would just never feel right asking someone about their finances to their face! I guess I’m kind of sad to see the internet taking respect right out of the window.
I really appreciate all the time you put into answering these questions! I think it is perfectly fine for people to have questions regarding GHNI, but I don’t know why some expect you to have all the answers! I say, they should contact GHNI, and if they don’t get a response in the time frame they feel is reasonable, or the questions aren’t answered to their satisfaction, they should just decide not to financially support the organization….The fact that some are getting so riled up and expecting YOU to have the answers is a little crazy to me. So, it makes it even more impressive to me that you took the time to really try to answer everyone’s questions! I would have from the get go said, if you want more info on GHNI, contact them directly! So, kudos to you!
Something is kind of bothering me. I feel like you constantly get asked questions about “why are you not helping in America?” And, I guess that I can understand why people ask that question and I feel that your response is always a good one. I just want to throw one more thing out there……in the Bible……we are commanded to GO into ALL the world to make disciples. The last time I checked America is not even close to being ALL the world. I think it’s great you are going on this trip and I know it is from God because seriously…..who wakes up and says, “I think I’ll go to Africa and leave my whole family behind.” You only do that when you are compelled by God to do His work and you understand that He and He alone will take care of the details. So, bless you in your journey.
Jennifer,
I am so excited for you as you follow the Lord’s leading to be His hands and feet in African villages. More important than all the details of this newly formed non-profit that you have had the opportunity to embrace, is our ability, as your Sisters in Christ, to pray for you, and support you.
I find it saddening that individuals can’t trust you to follow the Spirit’s leading. Why does everything have to be so DETAILED?! God is big. He does big stuff.
That’s it.
Jennifer, I’m behind you in this trip and I am thankful you are going! I enjoy reading your blog but never read the comments anymore as I am tired of the drama. I think it would be awesome if we were sponsoring you to go to Africa, although I realize we are not. I admire the way you handle this blog and I admire the way you are open about your love of Christ and your family! Hope to see you when you visit Texas!
Thank you for taking the time to answer questions. I am sure this was time consuming. I think valid questions asked in a respectable manner should be answered in a valid way. I feel that was done. Especially since you are not a paid endorser of this charity. Referring people to them is the most appropriate response.
If people want to financially support this organization they can or can’t. It is pretty simple.
i tip my (proverbial) hat to you friend. i don’t care if they do think they are concerned for you and your family, i would be freaking out at most of these people if they were shoving themselves so far into my (already clearly public) life and family and decisions and hair cuts. freaking. right. out.
you have way more grace toward people than i do.
Thank you, Sarah!
I couldn’t have said this better myself, Sarah!!
I just can’t get over some of these people and the time they must have on their hands… really- it’s so ridiculous!! I just want to tell them to get.over.themselves. Except, that I probably should be more like Jennifer, and be gracious.
I read this post this afternoon because it is 10 degrees here in Michigan and we were told not to go out unless we have to so I thought I would read (not that I care much what the questions are because I think you would only participate in an organization you trusted). But since I am cooped up inside…I figure what the heck? I think you are a great person (from what I see on the blog)! I think going to Africa with any reputable organization is commendable. I love reading your blog and all of the advice you give. It is inspiring. I could care less if you are in debt, as I believe most people are and if we waited to do things, like go on trips to Africa, until we were out of debt, we would never go. I find it interesting that people who seem to dislike you even read your blog anymore. Why waste time on reading a blog if all they can do is pick everything you do apart? Craziness I say! I love seeing pics of the kids, and I love to get great ideas from you like the shaving cream post. Thanks! I am excited to see what you post while you are in Africa! Good for you not to get all worked up over all the negative comments. God Bless!
They are jelous, lonely, and searching. In my opinion.
Perhaps someone from GHNI could join you for one of your live chats and answer everyone’s questions about the organization. If it wants to have more of a social media presence, GHNI needs to be more responsive to people’s questions. An internet chat might be an efficient way to share more details about the organization’s work overseas and clear up some of the confusion.
Whew is right!! I bet you DO feel like you just had a flashback to college English (senior year!:)
I admire you for explaining all you did in this post for those who are so concerned. But really, when I read all your posts about this Africa trip earlier, I feel no different now. I WAS and continue to be in support of you for following your heart to help others. And I feel like that support shouldn’t hinge on you having to explain yourself & the organization you will be dealing with. I just want to give you my support -no strings attached;) It is very clear to me that you have a heart for children (5!), you love our Lord, you have the life experience of a ‘medically chalkenging’ child (very enlightening I’ve found in my experience), you seem to have the support of your family and friends -all and all -I just really hope you have a great time doing what your heart leads you to do. I’ll sure pray along with you, every step. Oh, and thanks for sharing your heart -and compassion for others, with all of us. Isn’t being a part of HIS story in us & through others just the most RADICAL thing ever!?
Blessings, Jennifer!!
Ummm -not ‘chalk engine’ or whatever iPhone chose -medically challenging! That’s what I meant;)
Good Golly, Miss Molly. Jennifer, honestly, how do you put up with all the stinker-diddles out there?
You are going out to Africa and doing something I don’t have the guts to do. Man, I won’t even go camping b/c I love myself some indoor plumbing. Talking about spoiled American.
Don’t let people get you down & you shouldn’t take time away from your family to respond to their ill-researched attempt to through your trip, your true mission, and your integrity over board!
You are a great American & fantastic Christian. God Bless!
This is so ridiculous! Why do you people care so much about what one person does in her life? She is not a celebrity. I think you all are giving way too much importance to this. If she wants to go to Africa and leave her family at home, for whatever reason, so be it. As for me, I’m sick of reading about it. So long.
I think it’s wonderful that you not only have researched this organization so much but also that you have shared as much as you have with your readers. Every organization must start somewhere. Looks like this one is off to a great start!
Wow, some people are really hard on you. I hope you enjoy your trip. Africa is amazing, as you know.
FYI I don’t know if you choose what adverts come up on your blog but currently I can see adverts for Plan (similar to Compassion but non religious). I was a sponsor with them from 1999 until last year when they merged with a “reproductive health” charity which is essentially the international arm of a UK abortion charity.
It’s not my place to judge your heart or your finances. I pray that your trip will be safe and powerful in its mission. I look forward to reading of your travels. I am going to stop reading the comments because they only disappoint me in my fellow man (woman).
How the hell does someone know her kids did or didnt get haircuts? My god ppl get a life! Just because there are pictures on here that you dont think they had a hair cut in. WOW the things some ppl worry about! Maybe they did have haircuts then it doesnt mean they all had 5 inches cut off! They could have had half a centimeter off! For real ppl think about what is important!
Here are the things I know after reading this post:
1. You are a very sweet and unselfish individual who has a huge heart and a desire to help others. Your children can only benefit from this awesome example.
2. You have fully researched and believe in the organization you’ll be traveling with.
3. Some people have WAY too much time on their hands and should probably use that to plan some kind of child safety, financial planning, photo color altering conference.
Thank you for taking the time to answer questions about your trip- I didn’t feel that you in any way owed me these answers, but it sure was interesting to read more about your upcoming adventure! I wish you lots of luck and hope that it is an amazing experience.
Yes, MckMama – what she said!!!! You are loving and gracious. =o)
Love and prayers, Annie
Thanks for being gracious to answer questions, especially the accusatory and judgemental ones.
I really can’t understand, after years of reading your blog, why hateful, ugly, bitter and mean people feel free to spew their ugliness. I’m glad that it doesn’t seem to bother you much, I know I would never be that gracious. The bottom line for me is that no one is forcing anyone to read your blog. So it’s frankly none of their business what you do or what anyone else does for that matter. So thank you for being an example of gracious, loving response to your accusors.
On to a much better subject, the kids looked like they had a very fun time at the boat shoes. They’re getting so big. The pic of Nuggey standing on the boardwalk–he looks so tall! And Stellan is just a little boy now and no longer a toddler.
How do they grow up so quickly? 
I’m so glad that in the midst of what must be a very (ahem) busy household, you make time to enjoy where each child is in their development and let them be, well, kids! They will have great memories of the fun learning and loving of their childhood! 
And good for you for not letting the “uglies” get to you! I’m glad you will have this opportunity to minister to the people of Africa!
Have a great MckWeekend! 
Aw MckMama,
Long time reader here, I used to comment alot and haven’t in a long time. Just wanted to say that I have no idea how you do what you do!!! I just don’t understand how people believe that it is okay to ask specific personal questions about debt of any amount of money and how you choose to do with your money!!! It is never okay to ask people about how much they make, owe, or anything of that nature!!! Go you!!!
I agree with some others that have commented today, can’t wait for more baby sleep, cloth diapering, breastfeeding posts
I wish you a wonderful trip to Africa and hope it fulfills your heart! And that you and flurry will have a good nursing relationship upon your return!
All my Love from Texas,
Lindz
Thanks for this post! I was looking forward to it
Also, I don’t get why people are bringing up that you shouldn’t go on this trip because you have money “due” elsewhere. First, I’m quite sure you said an individual offered to cover your expenses for this trip…I’m going to step out on a limb here and guess that they didn’t offer to pay your bills, past or present, if you chose not to go to Africa?! Therefore, the monies used for this trip are not available to be used elsewhere, so if you don’t go on the trip, the money would be gone anyway. Of course you should go on this trip, and blog and photograph your heart out, to help raise awareness. That being said, I’m pretty sure that most people I know have debt, weather it’s a car, a house, credit cards, or what have you. MOST of those people still go out to eat, go on vacation, buy things they don’t “need”, etc. So, I see people’s point where you (meaning anyone)shouldn’t be doing “extra” when you have bills that are due, especially past due. But, I don’t see this as a situation related to that. I hope your trip is super blessed!!!
First of all, I’m not someone who supports your every move, but I respect you and simply like reading your blog. I think your volunteer work is respectable and laudable. It’s sad that some of these questions are so passive aggressive! I can’t imagine how offensive the deleted questions were. I think many of the people who don’t trust you or the organization are simply jealous or they haven’t tried putting themselves in your shoes. In my opinion, a person with more recognition and fame also has more opportunity. Since you have a well-known blog, why not use it for good? In fact, you should! Plus, every company and non-profit has to start somewhere. It’s ridiculous to think that no money can be set aside for their operating costs and global headquarters. Those funds are needed as well or the company couldn’t advance to do more good! I just think it’s so sad that people have to question what is clearly being done for good, when there are so many more serious issues to be worried about in the world. Instead of questioning you, they should be questioning what good they are doing themselves. Keep up the good work and good luck on your trip!
I am still concerned for your bowels. how are you feeling? Lots better? Little Better?
Completely better! Thanks for caring!
Yay!!! I really only am concerned for your health while you are away, have fun & do good!
Wow….you can officially get over yourself because I sure as hell won’t be back. Im going to be honest now you exploit your children, place blame for your bills on your son, have a higher then thou attitude. Plan and simple you are a loser god knows that you will be judged for your behaviors. May god have mercy on your lying two faced ways. Peace out.
This seems like a lot of anger just because someone’s bowels feel better;)
Ouch, Sarah…were you aware that the same God that judges Jennifer will judge you? May you find some peace in your heart today!
oh poo!
Sarah….don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Buh BYE!
Thank you for answering those questions in such a clear way. I really wish people would stop being so ridiculous! Can you write more posts about mommy-stuff like: how the heck do you fit all those kids in your vehicle? Are you making your own baby food for Flurry? What do you do about picky eaters (assuming you have them)? Stuff like that is why I read your blog. I am sick of the drama, and considered not reading your blog anymore because all the naysayers and your reaction to then is getting me down. Anyway, my point is that I support you but am super fed up with the drama! (not your fault but you can stop it from happening)
I’m with you, Emily!! I think you’ll like my next couple posts.
Stepping away from the drama…and back into what I LOVE to blog about!!!
Hear, hear! I’m still waiting fo the sleep post!
Thank you for addressing my question directly.
I just wanted to say that if GHNI had 1.8million in expenses, and 1.15million in program expenses, that still leads to program expenses being 60% of total expenses. It doesn’t really matter if donors designate their donations or not. More worryingly, hefty travel expenses are included within these ‘program expenses’.
I’m happy that you are so confident in GHNI and have the good fortune to have an individual send you to participate in their program. They certainly seem to have generous donors who believe in their admin. However, I must disagree when you say that it’s ‘obvious’ that “When people give to GHNI’s program purpose, that’s where their giving goes, minus 20% for global administration.” That is not really obvious from the tax form. Unless I’m still missing something?
I’m sorry that you still aren’t understanding the percentages. It can be tricky to grasp! Let me say that it does matter where money is designated, as I stated in my post. If you’d like it explained further, please feel free to contact GHNI. I bet they can explain it much better than me.
As far as things being “obvious,” please remember that you need to look at all of the pages of a tax form to understand it and draw correct conclusions. Many of the assumptions made about GHNI were based off of only one page of the document, something I tried to clear up in my post.
WIth respect… all the costs in the page two you mention (including stuff like promotional material and management fees) add up to 1.1million.
Not 80% of 1.82M = 1.46million.
There is nothing on that page two that shows me that GHNI has an 80% of total expenses reaching the villages. So I get that it’s a target. I get that people can label their donation this way or that. But it’s not obvious from the financials, it is not obvious from GHNI’s site (who never mention 80%), and I DID ask GHNI to clarify their financials a month back and they did not get back to me.
Maybe it will finally make sense when they get back to you and can explain how to read and understand their tax forms better than I have.
Something else which could clarify immediately would be if you had a GHNI link to an 80% figure? It’s not on their site.
If it isn’t on their site then I couldn’t give you a link to it, sorry! As I’ve said before, GHNI is responding to emails with more detailed questions. I encourage you to write to them a second time in case your first email was lost in cyberspace.
I’ve read some of the stuff on the GHNI website about the Adopt A Village (A new venture from think I think) and their hope to connect different communites (churches, neighborhoods, etc) to villages needing assistance. One thing mentioned was test running a “e community” or an online community. Is that what you are helping to test? To see how a community based around a blog would work in regards to fundraising, etc?
Is there a future for you with them? Maybe a paying job? That would be nice!
Such a great post. I love your integrity.
I am so drawn to this organization, would love to take a Compassion trip.
I’ve felt the same way, Tessa! Totally drawn to them and to the work they are about.
Thank you for taking time to answer everyone. I think it is clear you have a lot of people who feel passionately about you, your family, and your blog. I appreciate your honesty.
As for the debt…who are we to decide how you pay off debt. I hope this trip provides for you a chance to refuel your soul and maybe find a platform to help you rise out of debt. Being financially responsible for a family of seven is hard. I support you but I do not want to be one of the first 100.
Safe travels. And since my daughter is the same age as your l…I hope you can return to breastfeeding with ease.
Shannon
Also, the judgment is just a few days old. Why not make payments and avoid the judgment? You could do photoshoots in your city like you do in the “exotic” locations you’re traveling to. You could downsize to a cheaper home. You could do a lot of things.
I have been there- my husband was out of work for 5 months because our dog bit two of his fingers off (which is a story for another time!) and we had bills out the wazoo. I know what it’s like- but it seems the “balance” you’ve struck is one that really only benefits you. You are still stiffing people.
Not sure about the age of the judgement as you seem to be, but it’s a rather old debt, the likes of which we are actively paying back! In our minds, the amount we are having to invest for me to travel to Africa far, far outweighs the little bit back it could theoretically set us (though it doesn’t appear this will have any impact on our debt repayment plan) in terms of paying things back as we consider meeting with some of our Compassion kids and raising awareness for helping some of the people in the world who are literally waiting for their next bite to eat or have children dying from water related diseases. For us, the answer was clear. As far as all of the things we “could” do, there are many! We are doing the things that we “could do” that we feel are the wisest options right now. If we just wanted to benefit our own family, I suppose we could, but focusing on others, here and around the world, is something we don’t think we need to be waiting until there are no outside reasons that we “shouldn’t” before doing it. There are literally people’s lives hanging in the balance around the world and we are trying, with the help of trusted people in our lives, to make the best decisions we can across the board, just as it sounds like you and your family are trying to do.
The judgment is just 2 days old. That means that you haven’t been paying that debt back (that is essentially the definition of a judgment).
I am not saying this to be mean (as I said before, I’ve been there. The dog that bit the finger off.) My concern is that I work in public health and have seen what as economic instability does to children. 1 in 8 people is on food stamps now and almost half of all kids in the US deal with food instability. If the courts are needing to go as far as to intervene, it makes me nervous for your kids.
I believe that the specific debt you are talking about is to a material supplier for materials that were put on a job my husband’s company was never paid for. His name is on the judgement, but in this case, the debt will be paid if and when the job gets paid for. That is not to say we don’t have other old debts we are paying back, but that might help you understand why this specific debt hasn’t been paid. It’s a tough place to be in as a business owner when other businesses and customers still owe you money. Such is life, though, and such is the economy. We are shouldering punishments for other people not paying us, and other people are shouldering punishments for our debts. It’s awful and something I wish sometimes that we weren’t going through, but in this, as in every struggle in life, there is much for us to learn and keep growing as a result of!
That’s an unfortunate position. But that’s like saying that because I lost my job, I don’t need to pay my mortgage or car payment. If he didn’t get paid for a job then he should get a judgment against them so he can get the money he is owed.
In the mean time, I would think that God would place debt repayment (to people who need that money to feed their own families) over trips to Africa or pony rides for your son’s birthday party.
I am sorry you, or rather your husband, didn’t get paid for a job he did, because that does suck, and it is not right. However, that does not give you the right to stiff someone else, you know that old chestnut..”two wrongs don’t make a right” you should do the RIGHT thing regardless of whether your customer(s) did right by you. It’s not the suppliers fault you got stiffed, and it’s wrong of you to take money out of their pocket, food off their table because you got wronged by someone else. Yes it would be hard to pay them back because you didn’t (and may not) get paid, but it’s not about doing what is easy, it’s about doing what is right, and I am sorry, but what you are doing isn’t right.
I agree with you! We aren’t deliberately stiffing anyone! We’re working actively on paying back what we can, and on getting funds from those who owe it to us, so we can pay back the rest! We’re on the same page, I think.
Doing what’s right is not always easy. We’ve been learning that in the past three years, to be sure!
WOW! Where do so many people think they get the right to say “God would want you to put your debt above _______ (helping other people???).”?? Seriously? We cannot know the mind of God! So you have no right saying what YOU think God would want in someone else’s life! There is nothing that makes me more angry than people saying “God would want/not want you to do _______.” You’re not God, so how do you know what he wants for someone else??
I mean, for crying out loud, they ARE paying off their debt; it just takes time. And if they can pay off their debt, put food on the table, and still find a way to help the less fortunate, who do you think you are to tell them they should not be helping others just because they are paying off debt at the same time??? I just cannot believe some of you people.
I have to say.. while I do understand the unfortunate situation you have found yourself in (someone owing you money), this solution doesn’t exactly seem fair to the person (company?) you owe. It essentially sounds like you are hanging on to some of the money you owe in order to redistribute it where you think it’s most needed NOW.. Africa. What about what you’re doing is different from Socialism?
Something to think about Sarah, do you think it is okay for Jennifer to go to Africa under ANY circumstances?
When people thought the organization was paying for her, they disapproved. Now that they know Jennifer is paying, they disapprove. She has, however, mentioned that private people are paying for her trip. Do you approve of that?
Nowhere did I read that Jennifer was using going to Africa as a “solution” to their debt, as you stated. If she is not paying for the trip, but only for the Compassion kids’ travel, then how is that her hanging on to money instead of paying it back? Do you think her past debts equal the amount they are paying for their Compassion kids to travel?
And even if it did, is there a point where it WOULD be okay with you for Jennifer to go? If her debts were paid off, I would be willing to bet that people would say she was foolish to spend money to help Africa if her kids didn’t have big enough college savings funds. Or that there are people in our country who need help more. Or that her grandkids need her. Or that she should use the money first to invest for retirement rather than use it on a missions trip. There are as many opinions about was a person should do with their money/time/lives as there are people in the world.
Isn’t it up to each person to determine what is “fair”? It essentially sounds to me like you are haughty enough to think there is ONE way for Jennifer to do things and if she doesn’t do them YOUR way, she’s wrong. However I bet if she did pay off her debts and then go to Africa, there would be people like you still finding a bone to pick with her.
.. I never said that she was using going to Africa as a solution to her debts. I absolutely would be OK with her going under other circumstances.. heck I don’t really even care that she’s going now. My comment was in response to her explanation for using the money rather than paying off this specific debt. That’s all. Not everyone who disagrees is just doing it to disagree.. or would think that no matter what.
I hesitate to make this comment and contribute to the negativity here, but I think it’s important for readers to know what this controversy is really all about. Transparency and full disclosure is so important, right ladies?
Laura’s comment has gotten to the heart of the matter. Most of these critical comments have come from a very vocal and well-organized group of women who have an intense dislike for Jennifer. Every move she makes is viewed through that lens – nothing she says or does will ever meet with their approval. Although they pretend to be genuinely interested in whatever the latest controversy may be (charities, politics, etc.) make no mistake – their sole purpose is to make life as difficult as possible for the McKinney family. It’s a strange and twisted kind of hobby.
It’s ironic that the women who are harping on Jennifer’s financial issues are the same women who believe Jennifer doesn’t deserve to have ad income from her blog and have played a part in her loss of ads. They actually rejoiced in this. They also criticize her for doing photography shoots even though they know this is a source of income for the family.
I believe Jennifer when she says she bears some responsibility for her current financial problems and I hope she and her husband are successful in working their way out of debt. If people are so concerned about the McKinneys’ ability to pay their bills, perhaps they should stop the incessant meddling in every aspect of their lives, for the sake of the children if nothing else.
If moderators feel this comment is not appropriate, feel free to delete it. I promise not to whine
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Agreed, Sue. These are the same people who said how dare she leave her children at home with her husband while she went to other states to do photo shoots. For all we know, she booked the extra photo shoots so that she could afford to bring her Compassion children to meet her without having to interrupt the repayment of debt! Not that any of that is anyone’s business anyway!
You have no right to tell someone how to live their life. Just live your own and get off her back! There are plenty of people who abuse “the system” go help them instead of nitpicking Jennifer. (*PS…what I really wanted to say was that you’re a b**** but I am working on my temper)
It’s hard for me to Kara! Thankfully, in real life, *most would never treat someone this way. I could never.ever.ever be as gracious and respectful as Jennifer is with some of her replies. Sigh.
What I really want to say here is that clearly, this poster does not understand the contracting business. My husband does; very well. And these unpaid jobs are lots of times between way more people/companies than just two. Also, these situations being ‘open’?….Well if people lost insurance claims for them being ‘open’ too long, no one would have insurance either as a contractor. Please realize that self employed contracting is NOT so black & white in ALL aspects as you might believe. Not necessarily shady, just the nature of the beast. Just be more respectful -geez!! This is personal finances and stuff -so NOT classy (at least for a southern girl like me!) in my book!
Please someone explain to me how it’s anyone’s business what Jennifer does with her money? Why crucify her over wanting to go to Africa to help others and instead to pay off her debt?! She is doing what she in her heart believes is right and what gives any of you the right to be so rude to her?!
Jennifer-best luck on your travels. I’ll be praying for your trip to be what you and God want it to be. Thank you for being willing to put your life on hold to help others. Others should follow your example.
Ummm… maybe because the people she owes money too may NEED it. What if they are struggling to feed their families and Jennifer and her husband are basically using stolen money to fund this trip. If they owe people money, then the money they are using is NOT theirs to use.
I am betting the people she owes money to think it is their business!
Does she owe money to you? Then don’t worry about it! WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF for goodness sake! That’s a lesson I learned when I was 3! How old are you anyway?
Exactly! If you aren’t one of those she owes money to, then it’s none of your concern. Obviously, it’s a vicious cycle where someone doesn’t pay them, so jennifer and her husband are then put out bc of that.
Why put the energy into searching into her life? She is a grown woman and is capable of making her own decisions!
sorry, jennifer. I just hate that such a good person has to go through this. Especially when they are trying to help those less fortunate and all they have gotten is rudeness from others.
Thanks, Amber. Thankfully, not “all we have gotten” has been rudeness. Far and away most of the comments and emails we get are positive and supportive. In this instance, many, many people have shown an interest in being involved in this exciting opportunity to help others!!
kara – why are you worried about jenna’s comment and what she thinks? WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF for goodness sake! That’s a lesson you learned when you were 3!
MckMama… this is totally off topic, but… I miss the days when you were a sweet attachment Mama who blogged about moby wraps and woodland creature food…
Didn’t I just blog about those recently?
What I meant was, I guess, was that’s ALL you were. I feel like you have lost your humility. Why not allow “discrediting” comments? That would give you a chance to clarify things and make them right. I think it’s very healthy that readers are being skeptical of GHNI. They don’t want to give money to an organization that’s not using it efficiently.
Thanks for sharing your viewpoint on my humility. I learn a lot from all comments…good and bad…on my blog. I don’t think that allowing every inflammatory comment ever left to apper on my blog makes for the kind of community most of my readers and I want this to be. Thanks for understanding.
Sorry, but I don’t consider questioning GHNI’s legitimacy “inflammatory,” especially since you are asking people to give money to them.
Because reading so many negative, ridiculous comments does not make this a very nice place to be. Because so much negativity starts a small seed of doubt that blossoms into the meanness that so many commenters display. If MM turns the other cheek and refuses to sink down to their level some people start to wonder if she is hiding anything and if there is a kernal of truth in what they say. The viciousness that is sometimes displayed is sickening.
IMO, people speak with negativity due to anonymity and because they have that voice, not because they have legitimate concerns. It’s like the schoolyard bully who bullies because his friends laugh or gang up as well. On the internet your voice is your power, so if you take away that power they’ll go away.
As a regular reader that’s my take on it anyway.
I fully believe that if people who are so completely rude and type with a lack of any sort of humanity would NEVER say these things if they were face to face. I think everyone needs to take a step back and think about if they were facing that person would they say things the way they did. I have had to check myself on that.
this is ridiculous.
mckmama, you are so sweet to justify your choices to people who you have never met but read your blog (and have some odd obsession with making you look bad), but you really don’t owe them anything, in my opinion.
anyway, I just hope your trip is full of blessings and that you come away from it with what you were looking for. God Bless.
Thank you, Alison!!
I agree! I only have 3 kids, but I would never waste my time trying to justify things I believe in.
Thanks for answering all those questions. I am glad to hear that this program doesn’t designate a religious status. I believe that helping people can be done in a completely religious free nature (call me somewhat humanist in this right). One question I have for you personally is while you are visiting or helping a village that isn’t Christian, will you want to “convert” them? And by convert, I mean try to educate them and change their views about god and religion? I think sharing your beliefs and religious traditions as well as learning about theirs is an important part of this type of work, but I am concerned that even though GHNI has a religion free mission it doesn’t mean that the volunteers don’t have another motive. So I am curious about how you think you will approach the subject of religion while you are there. Can you share more about that?
Oh, and I forgot to say good luck regardless. I don’t want you to think I am not supporting your venture here, I am just curious.
At a different time in my life I would be asking how to go too.
Some people are saying there’s a recent $5000 judgement against your husband. That can’t be true, can it? You wouldn’t be paying for a trip to Africa when your husband hasn’t paid his debts. I don’t believe them. Why do people make up stuff about you? I just don’t get it.
Oh heavens, if only $5000 was the extent of the past debt we are still figuring out how to pay off. If they are referring to a judgement=contracting debt to a material supplier incurred a couple of years ago because we never got paid for the job from the customer, that’s definitely true! Those who have read my blog for a long time know that my family went through a very, very hard financial time when Stellan was sick and the economy took a dive. We’ve been working on making things right ever since then!
Oh, I see. Thanks for your quick response. I think I need to not “listen” to what “some people” are putting out there. It’s very confusing sometimes.
If you are working to make it right, shouldn’t you use the money to pay your debt before other interst. Have you heard of Davy Ramsey’s plan? Please explain why you chose to not pay off your bills and back taxes.
We are paying back our bills and back taxes. We’ve been plugging our way out of debt for a very long time now.
Interesting way to go about “figuring out how to pay” this debt. Dare I ask why the money for this trip could not be applied toward your debt? Real people are left holding the bag when you do not pay your bills.
So wouldn’t it make sense to put any extra funds towards paying off debt instead of paying for expenses related to a trip to Africa? I understand your desire to help, but isn’t protecting your family and making sure they are financially stable (or working towards that by paying off debt) more important?
Maybe that would make sense for your family. As far as ours in concerned, we are really comfortable with me going on this trip, the travel expenses of which are being paid for by some people who support the idea. It isn’t taking away at all from our debt reduction plans, but thanks for your concern!
You said you already paid your back taxes but the site hadn’t been updated yet. Now you are saying that you’re still paying them? I am confused.
I’m not sure what your question is, sorry.
You even said you were paying some of the expenses. Why not use that money to pay off debts (which are effecting others!) and take a trip to Africa when you are more financially stable? And no, it wouldn’t make sense for my family since we believe in paying debts even if that means sacrificing to do so.
It’s a balance, for sure. Paying off debts, giving to charity, paying current bills, saving for the future, traveling to do humanitarian work, spending money on groceries, tithing. Everyone tries to balance things the best they can, I think. At least that’s what we’re trying to do. Make an appropriate balance as we move forward.
To further clarify-you say that you and Israel are paying for the portion of the trip to visit with your Compassion kids. At least thats how I read it. Is that portion also being paid for by your benefactors?
We are paying for their expenses to travel to where I’ll be in Kenya. I’ll already be there with GHNI. Hope that part makes more sense now.
Sorry, my question is “Why did you say that you had already paid the $50k tax lien if you hadn’t?”
50k is a lot of money. Many teachers lost their jobs this year- that is one teacher’s salary right there.
Maybe you should look into Dave Ramsey’s program. It really seems like it would help you guys out of debt. I especially like his thoughts on sacrificing now so you can do so much more in the future! I’m super excited about paying off our debts and then being able to give more to help others.
We love Dave Ramsey’s stuff! We went through Crown Financial a few months ago and that program is what really has helped us get on track with our finances. I’d recommend both programs to anyone, too! Glad you have found help there, too.
So everyone who is not agreeing to what she is doing is going to say that your put your bills above everything else? You dont buy your kids toys at the store do you? Because there are bills to pay! You dont take your family to the pool or to the movie do you cuz you have bills to pay! You dont go out on a date with your husband do you? I hope not…cuz there are bills to pay! Thats like saying no one goes on a trip ever because there are bills to pay! There are always bills to pay and debts to owe but we still have to have a life and do things! THis is what is working for her family and thats all that matters! She never had to tell anyone about this trip or answers questions about it but she did! So just leave it at that! The next time you go do something fun maybe you should think about yoru bills!!!
@Danielle. I can’t speak for anyone else, but yes I put my bills/debts before everything else, because this is what I was taught being an adult meant. Does this mean I don’t do anything fun? No. It does however mean I pay my bills each month first, before I consider doing anything “fun” with it. I will always pay my light bill before I decide to go see a movie. I will always pay my credit card payment, or car payment before taking a summer trip to the coast. If after paying the bills we have money left over to do something fun, or put extra to the side for something really special then that we’ll do it. Sometimes though there isn’t extra left over, and when those times come we just have to tighten our belts a little more, suck it up, be adults about it, and find fun stuff that is free.
I never post but have been following since Stellan was born. If you don’t like what you are reading why come here? I don’t understand all the crazy people…..why come on here and complain, DON”T COME IF YOU DON”T LIKE WHAT YOU ARE READING….If $12 a month is so much that you have to cut back on food, then don’t donate this time. Wait until you can be more stable. I just can’t believe how people are commenting such rude things. No one is holding a gun to your head saying pay this $12. I think you do a great job writing your blog! Some people just complain because they have nothing better to do and like to get the fire going! God Bless you on your trip!
Ok don’t shot me but, I have one more question…..(I bet you thought you had answered them all huh) Does GHNI in any way provide or fund or partner with an organizations that provide or fund contraception or abortion services (aka “family planning”services)to villagers?
Prayers for your trip!
As I said at the end of my post, any questions further than the ones I very extensively answered will have to be directed to GHNI directly!
You may have said that already, but it doesn’t mean that it’s an appropriate response to questions that people have about the organization that you are supporting on your blog. The answer to that question could be the deciding factor for whether that reader donates to this cause that you are actively promoting. You should WANT to answer questions, so that people will WANT to put their money towards helping a village, and feel comfortable doing it. Yes, you’ve answered a lot of questions, and that’s great. But people will probably have more, and you (AND your readers) are just going to have to tolerate that, and if you don’t know the answer, then a better response would be, “I’m not sure, but I’ll ask my friend at GHNI and get back to you!”
Also, I have to say that it bothers more than a little that you would allow people to imply that asking questions about GHNI and your support of them in any way means that they are being “mean naysayers”. When you were introduced to GHNI, did you not do your own homework on them before deciding to put the support of your blog behind them?
I’m getting really annoyed that you’re deleting my replies. You’re letting replies through about your finances, but not mine that are relevant to the conversation?
The one you left four minutes ago? It’s showing approved for me.
Hi- I read every day- I may have commented once or twice when Stellan was in critical condition in hospital- and that was with words of encouragement.
That is why I comment again after so long- this post is brilliant Jennifer! You have compiled the questions and given excellent, very clear answers. Yes, I was thinking how much like an ‘assignment’ (as we call them here in South Aust.) it is- and a distinction quality one at that! I am not saying this because I am gushing with emotion for you as a supporter- as some naysayers like to claim- and that brings me to my other point-
well done- make your stand against libel, slander, and just plain ‘flaming’ as it’s called on the internet. My daughter moderates for a very busy site and deals with these issues and associated people, every day. It happens everywhere and you and your interesting, informative and, yes, I will say, honestly presented and entertainingly (is that a word? ah well, it is now because I just used it!) written site will not escape it. But you can manage it firmly and with integrity- that I think you are now achieving, and very well too. Asking questions and disagreeing (and agreeing) needs to be done with respect. That way we can all learn so much from each other. Great to see you claiming your right to that respect.
Wonderful to see your continuing commitment to using your blog to support the causes you value! I love your half full glass approach.
I wish you all the very best as you visit Africa and I, too, very much look forward to ‘seeing’ it along with you in your photos and wonderful writing.
Julie
You are lying Jennifer. You lied in the orginal africa post about “not seeing” the BBB comment… plain and simple, you are lying. I watched that comment (posted *multiple* times) be deleted at the same time you were replying to comments, as well as on your fb page. Liar.
If you think she is lying, why do you keep coming here? Get a Life! She has explained MULTIPLE times that she is not the only one who can delete comments. If they don’t follow her rules on commenting she will delete them…..seems obvious to me it didn’t follow the rules, there for it was DELETED. GET OVER IT
Megan, when I said “I didn’t see the BBB comment,” what I meant was exactly that. I didn’t see it. The very long comment which contained the BBB part was automatically deleted without being read as the commenter had reached “repeat offender” status after many months of inappropriate comments under various aliases. I did not read the comment at all before it was removed. Apparently you keep better track of my Facebook page, too!
I only go there a couple of times a day at most. I hadn’t seen anything about the BBB comment there at the time I was being accused by you of lying. Only after I was being accused of lying did I search the removed comments to see the BBB part. I wasn’t lying, I hadn’t seen it. I can see that you seem to choose to believe what you want regardless of what is true. I can’t control that, obviously. 
I would be more concerned if the organization had a BBB related complaint. If I decide to donate, I certainly don’t want my money going to BBB dues every year.
As far as JM or her admin deleting comments; we’ll never really know. I think there are many other more important issues than this and if her kids got a haircut the other day.
That’s just the thing though, many people saw this happen on the last post, and not just those that are considered “naysayers”.
*I* am not a repeat offender, and when I reposted the BBB comment, because you said you hadn’t seen it, you deleted not only that comment, but all 4 of my others as well. I know several other people said that they reposted the same comment, so that you COULD see it, and you deleted theirs and put them on moderation.
I think this is probably why people are having an issue with your statement that you didn’t see the BBB comment.
Maybe that’s why they are having an issue, I’m not sure. It doesn’t change the fact that I didn’t lie about not seeing the BBB comment when I responded when initially asked. I guess people can draw whatever conclusions they want to if they choose not to believe me.
See this is what I don’t understand about you and comments. Why allow this comment calling you a liar? You say you won’t allow such comments but then you do. WHy? if only to stir up something among your very loyal supporters. I truly don’t understand but then I guess I don’t have to. Its your life and yours to answer to god in the end.
See this is why I know people’s issues with me aren’t wholly about me: Fingers are pointed at me when I do delete comments I don’t want to publish and fingers are pointed at me when I publish comments others think I shouldn’t. You are right that it is my life, my blog, my family and God I answer to ultimately. Just like for you! Everyone who writes a blog is free to allow or not allow whatever kinds of comments they want, regardless of if their criteria makes sense to others or not. There is sure no way I could “please” all of my readers. That isn’t my goal. Instead, my goal is to make the best decisions for me, my family and my blog that I can.
I have learned the hard way when people begin ‘picking’ this is no end in sight. You simply cannot win no matter what you do.
Thanks for your reply.
See, this is why I love reading your blog…great humor. I hope you and the fam are well…and I wish we had that much snow…it went from being freezing yesterday to a nice afternoon in the 60′s today! AHHHH, Texas weather…
Good to know you were only using my comment to get support Jennifer since you deleted my response to your response. I really don’t know how you live with your lies– do you convince even yourself?
Your repeated comments calling me a liar are the reason I won’t be allowing your comments on my blog any longer, Megan.
Good riddance Megan.
Who cares if Jennifer lies or not? I really just don’t understand why people come here just to stir the pot.
Boredom? Must be. I think the problem is that their “other site” is failing miserably. Nothing really to post about and not many poeple ae very interested over there.
You can tell they have a new post coming out when they start picking fights over here. It’s really sad.
Thank you for such thorough and thoughtful answers. I am looking forward to reading and watching your connection with GHNI and Africa grow. Regardless of which organization you choose to support or travel with, your intention and your HEART are very clear to me. I offer my prayers for a safe, productive journey and joyful travels homeward.
Romans 8:6 (NIV)
The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.
Well done! Thought of you this morning during my reading.
Thank you!
Ahhhh, life and peace. It’s there for us.
Great post! We’ll be praying for a safe and successful trip for you!
So thorough!!! You did a great job explaining, Thanks!
Can’t wait to hear all about your trip and see all the pictures. Good job trying to put all of the questions in one post.
Just wanted to say good luck! I’ll be praying for you and your family this month. My brother spent a year in Kenya (Kibera) in 2006-2007 and that area of the world is very near and dear to our family. Thank you for taking this leap of faith and reaching out to others!
Considering the recent judgment against your husband for not paying a supplier, and that you have said you are responsible for all travel expenses involved with this trip, do you feel taking this trip may be irresponsible at this time? If you owe someone nearly $6,000 for supplies you have not paid for, I am having trouble understanding the justification for these other expenses at this time. This is a judgment against your husband’s name, and his company which happens to be named after one of your children. This seems to be an issue that should have been a priority long before making a financial commitment to fund a voluntary mission trip.
I’m sorry you misunderstood and thought that we were paying for all travel expenses involved with this trip. If you’ll read my post again, you’ll see that some private individuals who believe in what we’re doing are helping to pay for my way to Africa! No justification of expenses, even as it relates to old debt from my husband’s business that we are still working on paying back, needed.
Maybe your private individuals need to rethink how their help is used. Don’t you want to debt free. You can always travel after you have paid your debt. Think of the examples you would be to your children. What about working(taking photos) locally so you can add income to the family w/o the cost of traveling. Just a though. Please comment.
But you said in your post that you will still have to pay some expenses. If I owed money I would be doing everything in my power to pay it off before taking any trips for any reason. It’s mind blowing that you have a new iPhone 4 and other luxuries while owing so much money. I’m almost positive God isn’t supportive of peoe blowing off debts and spending money on mission trips while owing so much…
When you are finished putting together your action plan of exactly how Jennifer should manage her family finances, I am sure she will be more than happy to implement it.
I’m almost positive that God didn’t appoint you as “keeper of the McKinney finances”. Try asking such questions of a friend in your real life -oh, and pray that you don’t pick one like I’d be if someone pried into such private things in my life. You are being so UN-classy!